PSherman42: Usage rate is an important statistic for determining how many possessions are run through the player. PSherman42: I'm glad you mentioned usage because that is the second biggest reason why Leonard's PER is underwhelming. So the contributions of low-usage, defensive-minded players, which is what Kawhi was last season, will never be appropriately gauged by PER. Gomez: After reading that, I went and looked at Bruce Bowen's career PER. Think about that for a second: PER actually rewards a guy like Ellis on the defensive end more than Kawhi Leonard. There are players that get big steal and block numbers (like Monta Ellis and Deandre Jordan) despite being subpar overall defenders. This is especially true for players such as Bruce Bowen and Trenton Hassell who are defensive specialists but don't get many blocks or steals. PSherman42: The only two defensive stats that are taken into account are steals and blocks, something which even John Hollinger, the creator of PER, has acknowledged as a flaw :īear in mind that this rating is not the final, once-and-for-all answer for a player's accomplishments during the season. PSherman42: We will get back to that, but that's not its biggest flaw, this is: PER doesn't measure defense Gomez: It makes sense for Kawhi to have low numbers in some categories as he wasn't relied upon to create for his teammates. Leonard actually beats Manu in nine of the 12 categories. PSherman42: In almost all the categories where a player beats Kawhi, it's by a fairly large margin - especially field goals made, where Tony has almost twice as many field goals as Kawhi. ![]() Now let's use the formula to show how Kawhi stacks up against their own teammates: You can find the actual equation used to calculate PER here, but a simpler, if a bit different, explanation is this from Bleacher Report. ![]() Gomez decided to offer his take as well.ĭisclaimer: PER's flaws have already been explored by people smarter than us, but we wanted to figure out why, specifically, Kawhi's was low and if it meant anything. I found that part especially interesting so I decided to take a look at Kawhi to see if his low PER was a cause for concern. You should go read it in its entirety, if you haven't already. Tony Parker's probably the best guy to compare Leonard to because they both came into the league so young, but Parker improved his PER from 11.7 to 16.5 his second season. In terms of PER anyway, Ginobili's prime extended far longer than the average fan would guess, for a full eight seasons up to his age 34 year, as he put up something between 21.7 and 24.3 each year. Ginobili had a far more dramatic improvement, from a 14.7 PER as a role-playing rookie to 18.5 his second season to a full-fledged star by 2004-2005, putting up a 22.3 mark. Tim Duncan's PER improved from 22.6 to 23.2 in his second season, and he's perhaps the worst example of the three because he nearly came to the pros as something of a finished product after four years at Wake Forest. Most disconcerting of all, Leonard's PER actually went down his second season, and it's not like the 16.6 he posted as a rookie was world-beating.Ĭompare his numbers to the first years of the Big Three and it's just not a pretty picture. Wilco posted this optimistic piece about Kawhi Leonard, AaronStampler wrote a sobering response about why Leonard was not a star just yet, and he used one of the most widespread composite stats in basketball, John Hollinger's PER, to make a point: And if you don’t move the ball and want to play right tomorrow, you’re sitting again.’ And I said ‘I want everybody to hear that, so it’s out there.Earlier this summer, after J.R. And if you can’t handle that, that’s cool. And I have to coach you to who I think you should be some day, not to who you are today. But I am not going to allow you to waste what you are. And if you want to try and get me fired, I’m cool with that. ![]() I really believe, I know what’s better for you. ![]() And I said ‘Paul, I’m going to say this up front, and I’m going to say it in front of everyone, just so everyone’s clear. They’re pissed at Paul, but they’re pissed at me too, ’cause I took him out. So, I’m in the hallway, ’cause I’ve got to talk to the team now after the game. I took him out with four minutes left and sat him. My coming to Jesus moment with Paul was, we lost a game (Note: The Celtics actually won the game, with the Bucks, though the rest of Rivers’ recollection is accurate). Doc Rivers: My first year with Paul Pierce was rough.
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